Atheists Go!

[SonnyTwoJackets]

Woo hoo!





http://www.atheistcampaign.org/

[Sean]

That's some pretty limp-wristed atheism. "There's probably no God"? Pssshhhwww.

[SonnyTwoJackets]

[killer brodie]

SonnyTwoJackets wrote:

I wonder if that's a hybrid or earth friendly bus?

Who am I kidding, of course it is.

[Blacklair]

Sean wrote:

That's some pretty limp-wristed atheism. "There's probably no God"? Pssshhhwww.

Thats exactly what I thought!!! This reaks of those half-assed 'Agnostics'. It should read something like. THERS IS NOT GOD YOU SIMPLETONS!!! That would be much funnier.

[SonnyTwoJackets]

If you're gonna believe something, believe it. None of this probably business.

[rzaray]

killer brodie wrote:

SonnyTwoJackets wrote: I wonder if that's a hybrid or earth friendly bus? Who am I kidding, of course it is.

I guess I'm sort of confused here.
So athiests are the ones who want clean vehicles? Is it because as athiests, we arent convinced that Jeebus is going to come down and take all the good people away so we are the only ones worried about the environment?
Im really just confused as to the context of that little dig.

[killer brodie]

rzaray wrote:

killer brodie wrote: SonnyTwoJackets wrote: I wonder if that's a hybrid or earth friendly bus? Who am I kidding, of course it is. I guess I'm sort of confused here. So athiests are the ones who want clean vehicles? Is it because as athiests, we arent convinced that Jeebus is going to come down and take all the good people away so we are the only ones worried about the environment? Im really just confused as to the context of that little dig.

You nailed it, actually.

[SonnyTwoJackets]

[Ronald McDonald Lips]

rzaray wrote:

killer brodie wrote: SonnyTwoJackets wrote: I wonder if that's a hybrid or earth friendly bus? Who am I kidding, of course it is. I guess I'm sort of confused here. So athiests are the ones who want clean vehicles? Is it because as athiests, we arent convinced that Jeebus is going to come down and take all the good people away so we are the only ones worried about the environment? Im really just confused as to the context of that little dig.

Thats what a baby kangaroo told me yesterday.

[SonnyTwoJackets]

[Ronald McDonald Lips]

[SonnyTwoJackets]

[SonnyTwoJackets]

[Ronald McDonald Lips]

[SonnyTwoJackets]

THREADJACK!

This isn't a thread to attack atheists. You'll have to start your own for that.

[HENCHY]

[SonnyTwoJackets]

HA HA HA HA

[Ronald McDonald Lips]

SonnyTwoJackets wrote:

THREADJACK! This isn't a thread to attack atheists. You'll have to start your own for that.

ah crap, that last one did seem negative, well just omit the word "appear" and replace it with "be".

[Sean]

SonnyTwoJackets wrote:

Abe Lincoln and Ben Franklin? Not really.

[killer brodie]

Sean wrote:

SonnyTwoJackets wrote: Abe Lincoln and Ben Franklin? Not really.

Einstein believed in a creator/universal designer as well.

Is that Frank Zappa with the pipe?

[Sean]

killer brodie wrote:

Sean wrote: SonnyTwoJackets wrote: Abe Lincoln and Ben Franklin? Not really. Einstein believed in a creator/universal designer as well. Is that Frank Zappa with the pipe?

I think it's supposed to be Mark Twain, who also was not an atheist.

[Clawhammerandanetherrag]

Lighthouses are more useful than churches. -Ben Franklin

[Ronald McDonald Lips]

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote:

Lighthouses are more useful than churches. -Ben Franklin

I guess that would depend on the definition of "useful." Lighthouses are useful ALL NIGHT LONG every day, so indeed, the utility factor for lighthouses would probably exceed that of a church.

[Sean]

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote:

Lighthouses are more useful than churches. -Ben Franklin

Critical of organized religion yes. Atheist, not at all. Franklin, was a believer in God and a supporter of various churches. He wasn't a fan of dogma, but that's not the same thing.

Unless he was just pulling my chain in his autobiography.

Nice google quote though, dickless.

[Clawhammerandanetherrag]

You guys are all Steve Martin is a Mormon about this. You wanna claim them? Have at it. There is evidence on both sides of the argument. Thing is, politics even still, won't allow atheism. Just consider that. Sorry about the spelling. iPhone.

[SonnyTwoJackets]

Can't I just have a thread that supports Atheist ambassadors and their clever materials?

[Clawhammerandanetherrag]

I didn't google nothin. I read it on a bus somewhere.

[SonnyTwoJackets]

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote:

I didn't google nothin. I read it on a bus somewhere.

This bus?

[Sean]

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote:

You guys are all Steve Martin is a Mormon about this. You wanna claim them? Have at it. There is evidence on both sides of the argument. Thing is, politics even still, won't allow atheism. Just consider that. Sorry about the spelling. iPhone.

Huh? It's not a fantasy draft, I don't really care what he believed. I'm just saying he's no atheist. There shouldn't be any argument about it. He was a satirical writer that criticized the institution and emphasized the individual. He wrote all sorts of quips on religion, but he was always a man of faith (and science). I have no idea what evidence exists that supports Franklin being an atheist.

Weird-o.

[Duluoz]

Sean wrote:

killer brodie wrote: Sean wrote: SonnyTwoJackets wrote: Abe Lincoln and Ben Franklin? Not really. Einstein believed in a creator/universal designer as well. Is that Frank Zappa with the pipe? I think it's supposed to be Mark Twain, who also was not an atheist.

He was indeed. After losing his brother in river boat accident he "lost his faith" then after losing his all but one of his 4 children, and his wife and all of his money and his house, he was a full on unapologetic atheist.

[Clawhammerandanetherrag]

SonnyTwoJackets wrote:

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote: I didn't google nothin. I read it on a bus somewhere. This bus?

That was the joke, yes.

[SonnyTwoJackets]

Just not a very good one.

[Sean]

Duluoz wrote:

Sean wrote: killer brodie wrote: Sean wrote: SonnyTwoJackets wrote: Abe Lincoln and Ben Franklin? Not really. Einstein believed in a creator/universal designer as well. Is that Frank Zappa with the pipe? I think it's supposed to be Mark Twain, who also was not an atheist. He was indeed. After losing his brother in river boat accident he "lost his faith" then after losing his all but one of his 4 children, and his wife and all of his money and his house, he was a full on unapologetic atheist.

I'm sure there is some truth to that, but as far as I knew, and according to my English professor on American Lit., Twain struggled with his beliefs at times, was critical of organized religion but was a believer in God throughout his life.

Maybe I misunderstood him or something.

[Duluoz]

Sean wrote:

Duluoz wrote: Sean wrote: killer brodie wrote: Sean wrote: SonnyTwoJackets wrote: Abe Lincoln and Ben Franklin? Not really. Einstein believed in a creator/universal designer as well. Is that Frank Zappa with the pipe? I think it's supposed to be Mark Twain, who also was not an atheist. He was indeed. After losing his brother in river boat accident he "lost his faith" then after losing his all but one of his 4 children, and his wife and all of his money and his house, he was a full on unapologetic atheist. I'm sure there is some truth to that, but as far as I knew, and according to my English professor on American Lit., Twain struggled with his beliefs, was critical of organized religion but was a believer in God throughout his life. Maybe I misunderstood him or something.

He struggled with it his whole life. He could not understand why God would do this to him. And after losing his daughter (who drown in his bathtub) a few years before he died, he wrote his only living daughter a letter swearing god off completely.

[SonnyTwoJackets]

So his Atheism was founded out of spite?

[Clawhammerandanetherrag]

Sean wrote:

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote: You guys are all Steve Martin is a Mormon about this. You wanna claim them? Have at it. There is evidence on both sides of the argument. Thing is, politics even still, won't allow atheism. Just consider that. Sorry about the spelling. iPhone. Huh? It's not a fantasy draft, I don't really care what he believed. I'm just saying he's no atheist. There shouldn't be any argument about it. He was a satirical writer that criticized the institution and emphasized the individual. He wrote all sorts of quips on religion, but he was always a man of faith (and science). I have no idea what evidence exists that supports Franklin being an atheist. Weird-o.

Weird-o? Dickless? What do I know. I just got my degree in politics so I could wipe with it. Your not the only one who's read a book, hot stuff. Consider the historical context. Consider the possibility. That's all I'm saying.

Kind of seems like a draft sometimes, dont it. That was a good comment. Truth is, it doesn't matter. I don't need the validation.

[Sean]

SonnyTwoJackets wrote:

So his Atheism was founded out of spite?

I'm really not sure you can pin down Twain either way. Dude was complicated. I think he just struggled with the concept of God his whole life. He wrote both ways on the existence of God, especially after going through a lot of hard times.

I've never heard of the deathbed letter renouncing God though. Interesting.

[juice]

SonnyTwoJackets wrote:

I'm pretty sure none of those guys are actually atheists. Maybe Hemmingway, but even then he ended up committing suicide after being an alcoholic and was given a Catholic Burial. Even Darwin was more church of england, and then agnostic later in life.

Maybe if it said:

Deism: Good enough for these idiots.

[Duluoz]

SonnyTwoJackets wrote:

So his Atheism was founded out of spite?

I don't think so, he really tried to understand it. And after so much shit going on in his life he came to his own conclusion that God did not exist maybe because he had severe depression (the clinical kind, not the having a bad day kind) and he had to blame someone other than himself and he did blame himself for every death in his family. You see his atheism after his wife (a devote christian) dies. Almost as if he restrained himself for her.

[Sean]

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote:

Sean wrote: Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote: You guys are all Steve Martin is a Mormon about this. You wanna claim them? Have at it. There is evidence on both sides of the argument. Thing is, politics even still, won't allow atheism. Just consider that. Sorry about the spelling. iPhone. Huh? It's not a fantasy draft, I don't really care what he believed. I'm just saying he's no atheist. There shouldn't be any argument about it. He was a satirical writer that criticized the institution and emphasized the individual. He wrote all sorts of quips on religion, but he was always a man of faith (and science). I have no idea what evidence exists that supports Franklin being an atheist. Weird-o. Weird-o? Dickless? What do I know. I just got my degree in politics so I could wipe with it. Your not the only one who's read a book, hot stuff. Consider the historical context. Consider the possibility. That's all I'm saying. Kind of seems like a draft sometimes, dont it. That was a good comment. Truth is, it doesn't matter. I don't need the validation.

Yeah, doesn't sound like you need the validation at all, queef-boner.

Relax, I'm just bustin' balls over here.

[pilmer]

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote:

Sean wrote: Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote: You guys are all Steve Martin is a Mormon about this. You wanna claim them? Have at it. There is evidence on both sides of the argument. Thing is, politics even still, won't allow atheism. Just consider that. Sorry about the spelling. iPhone. Huh? It's not a fantasy draft, I don't really care what he believed. I'm just saying he's no atheist. There shouldn't be any argument about it. He was a satirical writer that criticized the institution and emphasized the individual. He wrote all sorts of quips on religion, but he was always a man of faith (and science). I have no idea what evidence exists that supports Franklin being an atheist. Weird-o. Weird-o? Dickless? What do I know. I just got my degree in politics so I could wipe with it. Your not the only one who's read a book, hot stuff. Consider the historical context. Consider the possibility. That's all I'm saying. Kind of seems like a draft sometimes, dont it. That was a good comment. Truth is, it doesn't matter. I don't need the validation.

i think that the big thing about the pic is that someone was trying to extablish credibility for atheism by putting pics of famous historical figures on that, and they were either outright incorrect or disputable. nitpick about one or two of them, but there are some glaring mistakes in that, making the pic more uncredible than credible.

[Duluoz]

Sean wrote:

SonnyTwoJackets wrote: So his Atheism was founded out of spite? I'm really not sure you can pin down Twain either way. Dude was complicated. I think he just struggled with the concept of God his whole life. He wrote both ways on the existence of God, especially after going through a lot of hard times. I've never heard of the deathbed letter renouncing God though. Interesting.

Not death bed, it was a few years before he died.

[KittenChunks]

So when did Atheism become enough of a factor in someones life, That they have to make a billboard for the side of a bus. That just shows that they have doubt.

[Sean]

Who's the dude in the top right corner? Dawkins?

[Clawhammerandanetherrag]

Validation in my lack of belief, twink. I am going to stick by my you're not the only one who's read a book comment. You came off that way anyway. If you didn't mean it, then forget I said anything.

[juice]

Sean wrote:

Who's the dude in the top right corner? Dawkins?

Carl Sagan.

Quote:

Sagan wrote frequently about religion and the relationship between religion and science, expressing his skepticism about many conventional conceptualizations of God. Sagan once stated, for instance, that "The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard, who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by 'God' one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity."

[MurrayDavis]

killer brodie wrote:

Sean wrote: SonnyTwoJackets wrote: Abe Lincoln and Ben Franklin? Not really. Einstein believed in a creator/universal designer as well. Is that Frank Zappa with the pipe?

Einstein believed in the god of Spinoza. Change creator or designer to force or natural will. Viewing human's divinity as superfluous and no more divine than any other form of life.

Spelling it Atheist or Deist it all boils down to their rejection of Blind Faith in man. Accepting man's fallibility in their interpretation of the divine.

They Spell GOD... N-A-T-U-R-E

Their fundamental view on faith sets them facing the direction of Atheism with their backs to religion.

[Sean]

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote:

Validation in my lack of belief, twink. I am going to stick by my you're not the only one who's read a book comment. You came off that way anyway. If you didn't mean it, then forget I said anything.

If it makes you feel any better, it was a short book and I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would.

[MurrayDavis]

Ronald McDonald Lips wrote:

Clawhammerandanetherrag wrote: Lighthouses are more useful than churches. -Ben Franklin I guess that would depend on the definition of "useful." Lighthouses are useful ALL NIGHT LONG every day, so indeed, the utility factor for lighthouses would probably exceed that of a church.

Im going to go with Churches.. they are soooo much more profitable. Much more Useful for the owner who likes owning Newspapers, TV Stations, Bronzed Oxen, Nice Jacuzzis, etc